it’s too simplistic a way of looking at the world to warrant looking at such a statistic on an individual basis.

Google are better at power management than we are with our desktop machines.

What would we otherwise have done to get the information we searched for, taken a bus to the library? bought Encyclopaedia Brittanica every year?

As far as truth goes, what is proposed and concluded is supported by facts which is published in the T.S.C. which can’t be said about Austrian economics, or other belief systems. The price system is a throwback idea for a low energy conversion society. It no longer functions adequately in todays modern world, which is acknowledged by many well known economist and educators. Look up Thermo-economics for starters. Choose not to believe it, I don’t care, facts are facts.

What you think about Technocracy Technate, I can’t say much, you are entitled to your opinion. I would caution you to take the time to research and understand the subject before glancing and naming it pseudoscience, among other things, which you have done.

Technocracy Technate uses a science administration as the decision making process along with Energy Accounting as the distributive method. It uses knowledge from all fields to determine what is the most efficient and sustainable use of materials. Hence, the organizational structure proposed in the Study Course can only work well with energy accounting. Energy and resources can be measured. Money cannot. Understand how the question is irrelevant?

I have fundamental objections to the system and have voiced them repeatedly with no answer other than a link to something else. If you do intend to reason with me — I need you to engage in a conversation about the principles themselves and show me how the Technate can work (yes, it’s annoying to have to explain them yourself but I can’t get both the ideas and their context from the same sort of literature).

PS, how would the Technate resolve the economic calculation problem?

Here it is again. The price system is anything that employs any form of commodity valuation, or debt tokens. Technocracy Technate is against Austrian economics, Gold standards, central-bank managed, etc. The flaw is the Price System. It’s basic characteristics make it unmanageable in a high technological society. I do not want to argue this, it is well known the imbalance socially and physically the price system afflicts. Understand?

http://docs.google.com/Doc?id=dfx7rfr2_70cmz88f

The energy accounting system is a medium of distribution. It is not in any way part of a price system. The energy units are non negotiable and are canceled at the end of the balance load period if not spent. It is only an account of what CAN be consumed by the citizens. If something like a toaster oven was not consumed, then it(energy cost) would be transfered to the next balance load period. You obviously have a hard time understanding this. I would suggest you read the entire T.S.C., that’s its purpose anyway.

In order for this system to work, it needs to take into account the utility provided by price signals, and a solution for the economic calculation problem. The largest issue with the centrally-planned Technate is distribution of available resources versus the needs of those resources, as well as the allocation of capital goods and a social aspect of what is desired versus what is actually needed. Whenever I mention resources, you claim that technology will solve this problem because that’s it’s purpose and the modern world is different in this respect — not a very convincing argument.

Again, the core argument of all the anti-capitalism Technate writing you’ve linked me to is against a regulated, central-bank managed market where banks get special interest, and the market prices do not reflect reality. I will agree that the system is f*ed up and unsustainable, but it is not a flaw of using capital (and maintain that energy units are a highly regulated, centrally-distributed capital) — it is a flaw of a centrally-managed economy. The great strength of modern technology is in bringing a heightened consciousness and awareness to people of their world and themselves — this does not need to be overemphasized.

Please, consider the differences between a free market in the modern world, and a corporatist, bank-centered market.